If you’d read the article, you’d know she’s far, far down the experience tree from Obama.
An opposing view:
Sarah Palin began serving in political office in 1992. Barack Obama began serving in 1997. (For the benefit of our resident hippie trolls, I’ll do the math for you: Palin’s been in public office FIVE years longer than the Messiah.) Joe Biden has been in the U.S. Senate forever. So, in terms of total years of public service, the three stack up as follows:
1. Biden
2. Palin
3. Obama
In terms of executive experience, there’s not even a contest. Sarah Palin first served in an executive capacity in 1997, and took over her first state-level executive branch position in 2003. From what I can determine, Barack Obama has never served in an executive capacity at any level, and Joe Biden has never served in an executive capacity at any level. So, in terms of executive experience, the three stack up as follows:
Unless you count the fact that her “experience” is exclusively in the bush leagues. Her mayoral reign was in an area smaller than Montrose, and the whole damn state is smaller than Austin. I served as president of a nonprofit for several years longer than Palin has governed Alaska; do I have more executive experience than Palin? You’d seem to say so, since your metrics disregard scale.
Further, her clear inability to answer basic questions on, say, any point of public policy make it very, very clear how green she is. But whatever, Edgar; you go on being the Voice of Contrary Reason. But read the article anyway.
Will do. She governs a State that has the same population as Biden serves as a Senator, has more money than the South side of Chicago and Delaware combined. I like the move because it leaves the inexperience argument out there for Obama to answer every day through November. He will refuse to answer questions on his experience before too long and it will cost him. Politics.
Scale is relative. Has Obama ever balanced a budget? Other than the mm he is taking in from donations and book writing?
So if I am the voice of contrary reason what are you the voice of popular negative socialism? I mean really, the entire democratic platform is based on labeling every aspect of US policy as “failed”, “disastrous”, “flawed”. To quote Monty Python, “I hate to be negative, but no”. Was saying the Surge would not improve Iraq contrary to reality? How about that Iraq would be like Vietnam? Was that contrary, factual or just politically motivated rhetoric? Certainly it was not based and is not based in fact. I believe that was not only your position but also Obama’s. Correct me if I am wrong. BTW I won 20 bucks betting on Bama this weekend. I do like Saban this week.
Dude. Learn to love paragraphs. Seriously. Blog comments are not served well by Faulknerian stream of consciousness rambles.
The move is actually good for Obama, since it takes the experience question off the table for McCain, and that was really the only thing he had to hammer on. Obama has as much experience in national politics as Lincoln did, and is the only candidate running with a legitimate claim on “not more Bush.”
McCain is objectively anti-habeas corpus, pro-torture, pro-war (and not just the two we have, either), anti-civil liberties, anti-choice, anti-privacy, and pro-corporate. You gonna vote for that?
entire democratic platform…
Whatever, Edgar. What color is the sky in your world?
Whatever the state of Iraq today, we’ve wasted billions and billions of dollars there, not to mention thousands of US lives and countless Iraqi ones. We’ve created a huge mess even if we can extricate ourselves in the next 18 months. Oh, and we’ve still not managed to actually capture the guy who attacked us 7 years ago, in no small part because Bush had more of a chubby for a quiet Arab dictator who was also an easy target. The surge is working? Great! But also irrelevant! Why did we need a surge in the first place? We had no business in Iraq. What is it about Texan presidents and stupid land wars?
Actually, all of this is a waste of time. You’ve made it clear for 8 years that your politics are irretrievably reactionary. I’m sure you’ll join the multitudes here in our fair state and vote for McCain. Knowing what I know about you, the cognitive dissonance this implies is pretty staggering, and still confuses the hell out of me, but there it is.
And yes, Saban will bag the next two unless he fucks up. The real season starts after that, warming up with freshly-coached Arkansas and then current-number-1 Georgia the week after. Inshallah.
Yes, Obama has balanced a budget. Though the right seems to love to chide him on his pre-law school days a “community organizer,” he was actually the executive director of the Developing Communities Project.
According to the Dallas Morning News, “[i]t was made up of eight Catholic parishes when he got there and had one staff member. He was its director . . . He made decisions about it, including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.”
So, yes, he has some executive experience. The article goes on to note that, while Mayor, she used eminent domain to build a hockey rink. Good for her.
Does Obama have a hell of a lot of executive experience? No. Neither does she. But I’ll take job training and college prep. tutoring over the government of the largest state by area taking over private land for another hockey rink any day.
next to Obama…
If you’d read the article, you’d know she’s far, far down the experience tree from Obama.
An opposing view:
Sarah Palin began serving in political office in 1992. Barack Obama began serving in 1997. (For the benefit of our resident hippie trolls, I’ll do the math for you: Palin’s been in public office FIVE years longer than the Messiah.) Joe Biden has been in the U.S. Senate forever. So, in terms of total years of public service, the three stack up as follows:
In terms of executive experience, there’s not even a contest. Sarah Palin first served in an executive capacity in 1997, and took over her first state-level executive branch position in 2003. From what I can determine, Barack Obama has never served in an executive capacity at any level, and Joe Biden has never served in an executive capacity at any level. So, in terms of executive experience, the three stack up as follows:
Unless you count the fact that her “experience” is exclusively in the bush leagues. Her mayoral reign was in an area smaller than Montrose, and the whole damn state is smaller than Austin. I served as president of a nonprofit for several years longer than Palin has governed Alaska; do I have more executive experience than Palin? You’d seem to say so, since your metrics disregard scale.
Further, her clear inability to answer basic questions on, say, any point of public policy make it very, very clear how green she is. But whatever, Edgar; you go on being the Voice of Contrary Reason. But read the article anyway.
Will do. She governs a State that has the same population as Biden serves as a Senator, has more money than the South side of Chicago and Delaware combined. I like the move because it leaves the inexperience argument out there for Obama to answer every day through November. He will refuse to answer questions on his experience before too long and it will cost him. Politics. Scale is relative. Has Obama ever balanced a budget? Other than the mm he is taking in from donations and book writing? So if I am the voice of contrary reason what are you the voice of popular negative socialism? I mean really, the entire democratic platform is based on labeling every aspect of US policy as “failed”, “disastrous”, “flawed”. To quote Monty Python, “I hate to be negative, but no”. Was saying the Surge would not improve Iraq contrary to reality? How about that Iraq would be like Vietnam? Was that contrary, factual or just politically motivated rhetoric? Certainly it was not based and is not based in fact. I believe that was not only your position but also Obama’s. Correct me if I am wrong. BTW I won 20 bucks betting on Bama this weekend. I do like Saban this week.
Dude. Learn to love paragraphs. Seriously. Blog comments are not served well by Faulknerian stream of consciousness rambles.
The move is actually good for Obama, since it takes the experience question off the table for McCain, and that was really the only thing he had to hammer on. Obama has as much experience in national politics as Lincoln did, and is the only candidate running with a legitimate claim on “not more Bush.”
McCain is objectively anti-habeas corpus, pro-torture, pro-war (and not just the two we have, either), anti-civil liberties, anti-choice, anti-privacy, and pro-corporate. You gonna vote for that?
Whatever, Edgar. What color is the sky in your world?
Whatever the state of Iraq today, we’ve wasted billions and billions of dollars there, not to mention thousands of US lives and countless Iraqi ones. We’ve created a huge mess even if we can extricate ourselves in the next 18 months. Oh, and we’ve still not managed to actually capture the guy who attacked us 7 years ago, in no small part because Bush had more of a chubby for a quiet Arab dictator who was also an easy target. The surge is working? Great! But also irrelevant! Why did we need a surge in the first place? We had no business in Iraq. What is it about Texan presidents and stupid land wars?
Actually, all of this is a waste of time. You’ve made it clear for 8 years that your politics are irretrievably reactionary. I’m sure you’ll join the multitudes here in our fair state and vote for McCain. Knowing what I know about you, the cognitive dissonance this implies is pretty staggering, and still confuses the hell out of me, but there it is.
And yes, Saban will bag the next two unless he fucks up. The real season starts after that, warming up with freshly-coached Arkansas and then current-number-1 Georgia the week after. Inshallah.
Yes, Obama has balanced a budget. Though the right seems to love to chide him on his pre-law school days a “community organizer,” he was actually the executive director of the Developing Communities Project.
According to the Dallas Morning News, “[i]t was made up of eight Catholic parishes when he got there and had one staff member. He was its director . . . He made decisions about it, including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.”
So, yes, he has some executive experience. The article goes on to note that, while Mayor, she used eminent domain to build a hockey rink. Good for her.
Does Obama have a hell of a lot of executive experience? No. Neither does she. But I’ll take job training and college prep. tutoring over the government of the largest state by area taking over private land for another hockey rink any day.